In recently revealed footage, Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates had some interesting things to say about his encounters with President Donald Trump.
The video footage depicts Gates taking audience member questions at a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation meeting. The video was recently obtained and aired Thursday by MSNBC’s All In With Chris Hayes.
Gates said he first met Trump in December 2016 but added that the President had previously met with his daughter, Jennifer Gates, at a Florida-based horse show. “He went up and talked to Jen and he was being super nice,” Gates said.
“And then about 20 minutes later he flew in on a helicopter to the same place,” Gates recounted. “So clearly he had been driven away but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter.”
As a result, when Gates first met Donald Trump, he said that “it was actually kind of scary how much he knew about my daughter’s appearance.”
During his first actual meeting with President Trump, Gates recounted that he had referred to himself in the third-person.
“His first sentence kind of threw me off, he said: ‘Trump hears that you don’t like what Trump’s doing.’ And I thought, ‘Wow… But you’re Trump?’” So I didn’t know if the third-party form was what was expected. ‘Gates says, Gates knows that you’re not doing things right,’” the Microsoft co-founder joked.
Gates added that he had discussed science-based questions with Trump before he was elected on two separate occasions.
During both of those meetings, Gates said that Trump asked him about vaccines, as well as the differences between two sexually-transmitted diseases.
“In both of those meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren’t a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody — I think it was Robert Kennedy, Jr. — was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things,” Gates said. “And I said no, that’s a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don’t do that.”
In addition, Gates said that on both occasions, Trump “wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV.” The former Microsoft CEO added: “So I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other.”